There are a number of youtube videos of girls and women who have blogs answering questions about kicking guys in the balls. Two users in particular, marcopolo and olivia, would send a questionnaire to girls with vlogs. So I watched a bunch of them and took notes.
I don’t know how many of those videos there are in total…I’m sure there are more than a hundred. I probably looked at around sixty. Some had sound quality that was too poor to hear all of what they were saying. In some the answers were too brief to have a clear picture of why the girl hurt the boy, how she felt about it, etc. The twenty five videos I ultimately took notes on contain at least a decent amount of context. They create a picture and a mood, giving a feel for how the girl sees herself, the boy, and the situation. Often they contain other useful details.
Part of why I like these videos for the purpose of my blog is that I think they are real, to some extent. The questionnaire itself is probably meant to be a porn generator; someone into ballbusting wants to get real females talking about real ballbusting. Some of the questions make this interpretation hard to avoid, like asking the respondent’s favorite way to hurt a guy there. But I don’t believe that most of the respondants actually understand that. Their responses don’t resemble what you’d find in ballbusting talk porn, and their channels are not porn. I think these videos are (mostly young) females answering questions about their own mga experiences. Some of them may be exaggerating, and some of them may be outright lying…but I feel like I’m looking at a broad enough number to take the general gist of what I find here seriously. For any one who might be exaggerating her mga experiences, another might be downplaying, etc. So, taken together, I think they paint a picture that is real and meaningful to some extent.
I’m evaluating these incidents by what the girls describe, with the assumption that one would defend their own violence as well as possible. For example, if a male was trying to stab one of these females with a knife, she wouldn’t describe that as “he made fun of me,” without mentioning the knife, even if he did also make fun of her. She would point out that he was also trying to stab her with a knife. So I’m calling “he made fun of me” no physical provocation. Again, I figure error here might average out; so if some downplay the threat they were facing, others might exaggerate.
Of the 32 girls (7 of the 25 videos have two girls in them), 8 of them have never hurt a male’s genitals on purpose. 8 of them have done it so many times that they can’t count (and the remaining 16 can name the number of times they’ve done it). 8 of them express some sort of general or abstract negativity about guys getting hurt that way (say something about how it’s wrong to do that under certain circumstances, or that, in theory, they feel bad for guys, etc). 3 of them express unequivocal disapproval (or overwhelming disapproval) for assaulting males’ genitals. So 24 express something ranging from no disapproval to enthusiastic approval. None of the girls who assaulted boys in this way expressed any regret for what they did.
No incidents in these videos involved self defense in the sense of fighting to protect yourself from imminent death, potentially serious bodily harm, or rape. The majority involved no physical provocation from the male victim; the male calls the female a name, and she kicks him in the groin, that type of thing. The closest to a case of self defense was that a boy threw a broken baseball bat at the wheels of a girls’ scooter, which caused her to have a bad fall. She kicked him after the scooter incident as retaliation. The next closest is a boy playing keepaway with a girls’ phone at a party; he held her arm to keep her away from the phone. Two others involved physical contact, but with no pain or force involved; a boy hugging a girl when she didn’t want to be hugged, a boy touching a girls face when she didn’t want that. One more was more complicated, a girl got mad during sparring in her karate class because the boy had (accidentally?) hit her during sparring class the week before. The rest of the incidents described involved no physical provocation; a girl is mad at a boy for doing something that involved no physical contact, and responds by attacking his genitals.
Keep in mind that 1) eight of these 32 girls say they’ve done this more times than they can count and 2) several of them say that they have seen it done by other girls many times. In these videos, there isn’t ONE SINGLE description of self defense, and only one description of any kind of assault as I would define it (I’m not going to call holding the girls arm while playing keepaway with her phone assault, although I do think it’s a grey area, and that it could be very annoying, or even hostile. But we don’t know that it was that, and she doesn’t say she felt threatened or in danger).
In my notes I see 26 of the 32 girls mentioning that they think mga is funny. The most common explanation for this among those who do explain is that seeing boys in extreme pain is hilarious. Many of the girls laugh at real signs of serious harm or damage (victim was coughing, victim didn’t move for ten minutes, victim had to be carried to the nurse’s office, victim had visible damage like bruising and swelling, later reports that the victim had associated medical problems, etc), in each case describing these details as making the incident funnier and more satisfying. They also speculate about permanent harm this way (maybe a boy they attacked is sterile, maybe has permanent damage, maybe he would be bleeding, maybe his balls would pop like a balloon, maybe one day she will kill a boy this way, etc), with the same tone, that these greater harms would be even funnier and more satisfying.
There are some other interesting reasons given… “cry like a little girl” “because guys are all like sensitive about it” “the expression on their face made you feel so glorious and powerful” etc. These, to me, suggest that these girls believe that mga causes psychological harm (makes boys feel weak, makes them look weak, makes them feel violated, attacks the identity of boys) and that this aspect is funny or satisfying to them.
Then this:”if they cheat on a girl/then they can’t have babies”…I think this is a theme we will see more and more…that mga is a way to suppress and control male sexuality, and maybe male behavior more generally. I’ll write about this more later.
And this:
“it’s funny to see assholes get hurt, because they’re usually the ones doing the hurting/I don’t believe in double standards” So mga against boys CORRECTS a double standard…the opposite of how the reddit commenters felt.
Girls mention they can’t feel that pain, it doesn’t hurt them, and that’s part of why it’s funny; this means part of the humiliation is that you are doing something to someone else’s body that they can’t do back to you. This is a kind of identity assault that can basically only be female-on-male, because 1) males have external genitals that are easily attacked and 2) females don’t.
Some things are strikingly similar about these videos…to such an extent that it feels like, both in why the assault happened (as, in each case, it was clearly a choice the girl made, not a circumstance where she found herself out of control), and in the way she talks about it that feel scripted, or like part of a larger cultural narrative that the girls are tapping into. You are supposed to be proud and dismissive about hurting boys this way, you are supposed to mock their pain, and the worse it is, the better and funnier it is. So if they’re carried away on a stretcher, if they have permanent damage, all the better.
In my last article, about the Reddit thread, I asserted that “if the roles were reversed” is the common sense principle that we ought to apply to mga in order to understand it, but that doing so would be extremely difficult, counterintuitive, and possibly painful. In this case, I actually find myself unable to write down the “if the roles were reversed” version of what these girls are laughing at and bragging about, because it’s so…horrible. Unreadable. I just wrote eight versions of an attempt at that and erased them all.
So how is it that all of this real life mga is in any way ok? How is it possible that these girls post this stuff? How is our attitude about the sanctity of boy’s identiy, sexuality, and bodies is so radically different from our attitudes about those aspects of girls?
I plan to write lots of articles analyzing mga in media in order to get at this question, because this shared narrative seems so prevalent, repetitive, and odd to me. Maybe media generates this narrative that allows these girls to feel and act this way; at the very least, it presents these narratives to us in a way that we can analyze.
Below are my notes on the youtube videos. I’ve taken out the names on the accounts.
1. doesn’t approve of kicking guys in the balls. She says pepper spraying would be better (assuming she means more humane). Calls it unclassy. no assaults
2. kicked a boy for hurting her on her scooter; threw a broken baseball bat at her scooter, which caused her to have a bad fall; earlier tried to hit her with a golf putter. She also kicked her father in law for yelling at her.I’m calling this serious physical provocation in the first case, no physical provocation in the second case. 2 assaults
3. has done it multiple times, sometimes because she thought it would be funny, sometimes because a guy “said something and I didn’t like it.” Said she’s done it a lot. Says it’s funny to see their reaction of pain, used the word hilarious. Says she doesn’t feel that pain. no physical provocation, unspecified large number of assaults
4. kicked her brother because he made her mad, and her boyfriend on a trampoline because he came too close to her. Her video is full of glee. Describes how all of the pain reactions are funny…immediate falling and grabbing their crotch, contorted face, etc. Seems very young. No friend of hers ever got in trouble for doing this, and she never got in trouble either. I’m calling both of these no physical provocation. two assaults
5. Two girls. One only ever did by accident. One did during sparring in Karate, because she was mad at the guy for hitting her the week before during sparring. They think the reaction and the amount of pain is what makes it funny. Very mumbly, bad sound quality. “falling to the ground and crying like a little girl” is the funniest reaction they’ve seen. One of them did get in trouble once; sounds like it was at someone’s home? Which would mean she did not get in trouble for doing it on purpose during her karate training. But they are really mumbling here, very hard to tell what they’re saying.I’m going to call getting hit the week before during training minor physical provocation…you could argue no physical provocation on this one though. Probably need a little more context (would need to know if him hitting her was intentional, or if she felt it was intentional, and if she assumed that he was planning on doing it again in the next sparring match. But she doesn’t say any of that). two assaults I think
6. thinks the topic is very funny. She has kicked guys in the balls by accident and on purpose: she thinks times she did this on purpose were because a boy “talked about me and called me a whore or something.” Sometimes kicked them a lot of times. Funny because of “their faces and their reaction and stuff,” and because it often happens if a guy cheats on a girl, and if they get kicked in the balls “they can’t have babies so…whatever.” Thinks it would be funny to grab a guy in the balls and say “these are mine!” Smiling as she speculates about kicking a guy in the balls as hard as she could, he couldn’t have babies, “his balls might be popped like a balloon…might be some blood.” no physical provocation, unspecified large number of assaults
7. has never done it, never seen it. (no assault)
8. Two girls. one has hit a guy in the balls, not on purpose, but it was funny. Her friend also did it by accident. Interesting…”if we do it (I assume she means girls) it makes us look impressive to your friends.” I’m thinking she means her friends/the girls’ friends? And it’s funny “because guys are all like sensitive about it.” “Is it fair for girls to take advantage of a guy’s weak spot” “Yes. Yes yes it is. It’s hilarious.” She says it’s especially awesome if the guy feels like puking or if he does puke. Says when girls get hit in the crotch, it hurts for like two seconds. But a guy will be down for 20 minutes crying.(no assault)
9. Seems older? Maybe college? Not 14. Kicked a guy in the balls on a bet. He fell over. She’s never seen it happen. They do it because the guy is a douchebag or because he’s coming on to them, or because they’re evil, evil women, and they just do it to see a guy in pain. (special case, I’m calling this consensual and no assault)
10. has kicked many different guys in the balls. She did this because boys disrespected her. She doesn’t do it any more. First time her friend did it, because a boy said something to her (kitten) that made her cry. She now thinks it’s immature. It’s appropriate if you’re being physically attacked, not just during play fighting but like “I want to fucking kill you.” (by which I think she means that the attacker’s aim is to kill. I think she means legitimate self defense). “Are you concerned about permanent damage?” “I’m not, cuz I’m a girl, I don’t really care, but I know a lot of guys are concerned about it, so I’m gonna respect you, unlike you sort of not respecting me I’m gonna respect you and not kick you, so, you know, I’m gonna be the mature one in this…” Knows that it could result in not having children.This one comes close to expressing remorse; there’s no actual remorse expressed, but she does say 1) she doesn’t do it anymore 2) it’s immature (which could read as her admitting that she had behaved immaturely) 3) understands that expecting respect requires giving respect 4) understands that serious damage is possible from mga. So she kind of does everything but express remorse.no physical provocationunspecified large number of assaults
11. never done it, but she has threatened. Says it’s not so much that girls think it’s funny, but it’s the one way that girls can be tougher than a guy. Says it can be funny, can also be really rude. Says it would be funny to happen to a brother or a cousin. Thinks maybe it’s like getting hit in the boobs. Doesn’t think it’s always fair. She would never do it unless it was self defense, but thinks it’s ok to threaten or to pretend to do it in order to scare a guy off. Thinks girls having periods is worse than boys having balls. Thinks both sexes envy each other for different reasons, says you can’t win. Ends by saying maybe girls should respect their (boys) personal (can’t understand this word), and that it could be possible to hurt guys seriously.(no assault)
12. kicked two guys in the balls. Ex boyfriend was trying to touch her face, she told him not to, he kept trying, she kicked him. They were in the swimming pool, she said after she kicked him he was underwater for a long time. Laughs as she says it’s amazing he didn’t die, speculates that he can’t have kids. Then today her boyfriend was touching her feet, she didn’t want him to and kicked him in the balls four times. Notes that sometimes guys laugh when this happens. Thinks it’s funny that very little force hurts. Likes the idea of kneeing because you can look him in the eyes. Interesting…she notes that there are boys who bully her at school who she would like to kick in the balls, but hasn’t. So the only boys she’s done this to are boyfriends. Says she got in trouble for threatening to rip a boy’s nuts off. Teacher told her no (sounds like that was the only punishment?). Says she’s tells guys she’s going to rip their balls off a lot.minor physical provocationtwo assaults
13. Two girls. one kicked a guy in the balls because he wouldn’t give her her bubbles back. The other has punched her brother in the balls for taking a toy from her. he went down on his knees and cried. They both think the reaction and amount of pain is funny. Then one of them says she wouldn’t want to kick guys in the nuts because that’s “kind of mean, that’s actually really mean to them because that hurts a lot, I bet” the other says “well they probably deserve it” first girl “if they piss you off that’s another thing but I never want to…so…” both cases no physical provocation, two assaults
14. kicked a boy in the balls for sitting next to her on the bus; she didn’t want him sitting there, said he was flirting with her, she asked him not to sit there but he didn’t move. Best thing about kicking a guy in the nuts is feeling power. “It’s pretty funny.” Says she’s kicked way too many boys in the balls (to count). Says she’s been grounded and been in detention several times for kicking boys in the balls. Hard to tell if this is no physical provocation or minor physical provocation; so we’re going with no physical provocation (for example, were there other seats available on the bus? Are kids allowed to sit in any seat they want?) one assault
15. kicked a boy in the balls in 1st grade; said he was always trying to get her in trouble, so she kicked him in the balls. She got in trouble for it. Sounds like she kicked another boy in the balls for “taking over her (inaudible). So she got really mad. Thinks its funny that they groan and get on their knees. She’s kicked two guys in the balls. Her friend also got in trouble for kicking a guy in the balls.no physical provocation, two assaults
16. has kicked guys in the balls many times. Kicked her sister’s husband in the balls because she “didn’t like him. I thought he was a weirdo, a goth freak.” They live together and he hates her, they’ve never had a conversation; she thinks it’s because she “kicked him pretty good.” no physical provocation, unspecified large number of assaults
17. kicked a boy in the balls because he called her a name, maybe bitch or whore. She thinks it’s funny if they really deserve it. Doesn’t know how many times she’s done it, “probably alot more” than three but only remembers three. Describes a guy not moving for a long time and having to be carried to the nurses office, “but he was a jerk, so it was funny, and he deserved it.” Her friend got in trouble for kicking a guy in the balls and had to go to detention for a week. Then “I haven’t done that in a while though, I’m too nice of a person to do that, I just feel too bad about it.” no physical provocation, unspecified large number of assaults
18. She’s kicked a lot of guys in the nuts, got suspended for it (sounds like once). “Of course girls think it’s funny.” Guys in extreme pain rolling on the ground is funny. Se has seen it happen “so many times,” in school, out of school, lot of my good, dear friends of mine have kicked guys in the balls, and it’s extremely funny.” She’s seen guys cough from getting kicked in the balls (unclear if she did it), and she thinks she might accidentally kill someone someday by kicking them in the nuts (laughs while she says this). no physical provocation, unspecified large number of assaults
19. Kneed a guy in the balls for hugging her. he would run up to her and hug her, and then tell his friends that he hugged her, so the next time he did it she kneed him in the balls three times. He went crying away and she got in trouble, but “it was totally worth it.” Then she says she doesn’t think it’s funny, it’s a sad thing, because it’s someone getting hurt. She’s seen her friends do it and disapproves. She thinks it’s kind of funny, kind of not funny. Her friends have grabbed guys in the balls and she thinks that’s very funny. minor physical provocation, one assault
20. Two girls. One girl did it to her father when she was too young to understand what that was. The other one did it three times to her brother and once to her boyfriend; her brother made her mad, and her boyfriend “called her the c word.” This girl thinks it would be funny “to twist them like a titty twister.” no physical provocation, four assaults (the father one doesn’t count)
21. Two girls. would never kick a guy in the balls. “That’s not ok.” She’s seen it, the guy fell to the ground, “poor kid.” There’s nothing funny about a guy getting kicked in the balls. She thinks it’s a cheap shot, and if she was a guy she wouldn’t appreciate that. The other girl says “it’s worse than childbirth.” (no assault)
22. has kicked a guy in the balls. First time was in 3rd grade, she thought it would be funny. “Everybody knows, whenever you’re a little girl, you’ve at least kicked a guy once in the balls because the expression on their face made you feel so glorious and powerful.” Last time she did was in 6th grade because “he was being a major B to me.” She can’t remember how many guys she’s kicked in the balls, because she’s kicked so many. Her guess is “maybe seven guys, at least thirty times each.” A few days ago in her drafting class her ex got kicked in the balls and she describes him being in extreme pain, and says “good times.” Says she and her friends “used to gang up on those little boys that have cooties” and kick them in the balls, and they got in trouble often for it, says they always seemed to get caught. no physical provocation, unspecified large number of assaults
23. Two girls. One girl kneed her brother in the balls for calling her a little shit. She’s kicked three different guys in the balls? The other girl says a polish boy was bullying her so she kicked him in the balls. One girl describes seeing a guy get kicked in the balls by his girlfriend, who was mad at him (he wasn’t threatening her or physical with her, he was trying to diffuse). Says “she was like…” then mimes a really hard knee with a grunt of effort. Says his face was “like a dying walrus, it was so funny. Like, he fell over. Like no one came to help him (she’s laughing about this).” First girl says second girl got in trouble last month for kicking a popular boy in the balls, second girl says that didn’t happen.no physical provocation (possible that “bullying” involved physical provocation or perhaps even self defense? But she doesn’t clarify). four assaults
24. Two girls. girl one hit her ex boyfriend in the balls with a pool stick because he was pretending the pool stick was his penis, so she shoved the stick into his balls. Girl two says she did it once or twice (she describes two incidents, so I’m calling it two assaults). Girl two did it for seemingly no reason; he was standing in front of her, she felt like hitting him. He was on the ground for ten minutes. Another time was at a fire (no details). Girl one says she doens’t find it funny unless he deserves it. But if the guy deserves it it’s “funny as fuck.” Girl two “It’s funny to see assholes get hurt, because they’re usually doing the hurting.” “I don’t believe in double standards.” no physical provocation, three assaults
25. kicked a guy in the balls on two occasions, once when she was four years old to her cousin for breaking her toy. He fell to the ground crying, she thought it was hilarious. The second time was when she was 14, a boy was playing keepaway with her phone at a party at someone’s house, and grabbed her arm (presumably to keep her away from her phone). So she kicked him in the balls as hard as she could. He screamed and fell to the ground crying. The mom came to see what happened; said it was the boy’s fault and she was acting in self defense. Apparently “they were swollen, they were black and blue, and he was having other issues with them later.” Later she says “it’s only hilarious if the guy deserves it” and that “if he doesn’t deserve it then I think that it’s horrible to kick a guy in the balls.” Later clarifies/confirms that the guy at the party and the 4 year old deserved it. “Yeah, both times it was self defense. One time I was defending my toy, the other time I was defending my phone and my arm.” no physical provocation, low-moderate physical provocation. two assaults
…AND not a response to the questionnaire, but an impassioned take on the existence of these videos…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehviHTdnAKE
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